Proprietary Trading – Pros And Cons (A Personal Experience)

Last Updated on March 25, 2021 by Oddmund Groette

Proprietary trading might not be so different than retail trading. I was a proprietary trader from 2001 until 2018 in three different companies. How was it, and how does it work? What are the advantages and disadvantages? Below you find out what a prop firm is, how it works, the pros and cons, and which firms I used.

First a disclaimer: I am by no means an expert in the business of proprietary trading but hopefully I can provide some “insights” into the proprietary trading business via my trading.

What is proprietary trading?

The most basic definition of proprietary trading is trading to make a profit, rather than earning a commission or trading on behalf of clients. Proprietary traders can be hedge funds, banks, brokerage firms, or many other types of institutions. The firms use their capital to engage in trading to make a profit.

In this article, we refer to proprietary trading as a firm that facilitates remote or on-site trading for small individual traders. Worldwide, there are many proprietary firms that welcome small and undercapitalized traders. These firms offer trading in a wide range of assets, like forex, stocks, commodities, or any other form of financial assets. In this article, we only focus on prop firms offering stock trading, but in principle, it should apply to all types of firms no matter what products they offer.

Is prop trading illegal or dead?

For most of the world’s population, no, but for US citizens and residents you need to be careful. The reason is simple: this is strictly regulated in the US, while the rules are laxer outside the US borders. However, prop trading is a wide term, and there are of course prop traders in the US, but few among the prop trading definition used in this article.

Why does proprietary trading exist?

Proprietary trading serves many purposes. Hedge funds are self-explanatory, and for financial institutions, the trading is mainly done as a separate profit center. Additionally, firms can “stockpile” inventories for whatever reasons, for example, by later offering different services to their clients. Market-making is also a frequent cause for proprietary trading, for example by providing liquidity in a specific security or group of securities.

For independent small traders, prop trading gives an opportunity to start trading with a small amount of money and circumvent the limited leverage offered to retail clients.

A proprietary company trades its own account

Below is a sample from one of my agreements that illustrates how this works:

The company and you agree that you will, as an Independent Trader to the Company, select purchases and sales of securities for day-trades in the Company’s account, with funds provided by the Company……Your relationsjhip with the Company is that of an Independent Trader, and not an employee or a customer of the Company for any purposes….In order to induce the Company to provide you with access to its funds to enable you to select Stock Trades and keep a percentage of the net trading profits generated thereby, you agree to bear certain losses that result from you Stock Trades….The Company will track within a Company sub-account that it maintains with any securities brokerage firm that it selects, all transaction results for Stock Trades that you select….Those Stock Trades will be tracked separately from all other activity and transactions within the Company Account…..The Company will maintain a profit and loss record on the Trader Sub-Account, reflecting all profits and losses on the trades you make therin, net of all transaction fees, costs, and expenses incurred by the Company for such trades to be effected. You are under no obligation to repay any losses that exceed your equity. Therefore, you should understand that any losses on securities transactions in the Company Account, including the Trader Sub-Account, belong to the company, and not to you…..You represent that you are not a citizen of the USA.

What about the deposit? The agreement above says you are under no obligation to repay any losses. However, this is offset by a “risk contribution” agreed upon between you and the company. The risk contribution determines how much leverage you are given. In another agreement the risk contribution is specified explicitly in the agreement:

Therefore, it is the Company, and not you, who is the party to each Stock Trade, and, as between the parties to the Stock Trades and their respective brokers, it is the Company who is respnsible for such Net Trading Losses. Therefore, in order to carry out your agreement to bear the Net Trading Losses, you agree that upon the occurrence of any Net Trading Losses which is borne by the Company, the Company will be deemed to have made a loan to you in the amount of such Net Trading Losses. The loss will be offset by the trader’s risk contribution.

How do proprietary traders get paid?

The prop firms mentioned in this article distributes money based on the performance in your sub-account. In the agreement, this is mostly labeled as “services”. It’s solely your own profits and losses that determine if you get paid or not. You are not given any salary or fees for your “services” if you are a remote trader.

How much do you get paid? Unfortunately, you are not paid out 100% of your profits (but you have to bear 100% of the losses). The payout is usually between 50-90%.

However, a prop firm can form agreements very much as they please. Thus, some companies offering on-site trading might offer different remuneration packages, perhaps even a salary.

Why be a proprietary trader?

One obvious conclusion to draw from the contract excerpts above is that you are not liable for any losses except for your risk contribution/deposit. However, what happens if you have a black swan type of loss that blows your deposit and then some, is unclear. I guess it depends on the amount. I would assume they would ask you to please repay the losses…..

The observant reader might already realize that your deposit is at risk if the company goes bankrupt, either by a rogue trader or for whatever reason. Proprietary firms are not well capitalized. Fraud is also pretty “common” in this business. Very few companies exist for more than 10-15 years.

A second reason is leverage. If you are a retail trader you are limited by strict rules, while a prop firm can give you “endless” leverage. It’s an agreement between you and the management of the prop firm. This is, of course, a huge advantage for traders with small accounts. As a retail client you face restrictions:

Retail vs. proprietary trading

The main difference is that proprietary traders trade the company’s capital, while a retail client trades his or her own capital.

Interestingly, and most traders are not aware of this, is that retail clients’ deposits are a liability in the books of the broker. When you buy for example Apple, it’s the broker that is the registered owner, while you are just the beneficial owner. If the broker goes belly up, you are paid by the insurance (SIPC in the USA) or have a claim against the broker. You can read more here:

As a retail client, you are limited to the regulated leverage and margin rules. Moreover, the US PDT rules are an obstacle for traders with less than 25 000 in their accounts.

How does remote proprietary trading work?

I traded remotely for 17 years. This type of structure might be very different from a company that provides hands-on trading and supervising in an office. Mind you, a remote firm most likely doesn’t offer any help at all except for providing the infrastructure and leverage to trade. You are left on your own.

Remote prop trading works like this:

You deposit a small security deposit, for example 5000 USD, and you get to trade with significantly higher leverage than the normal PDT rules. The commission is low and you get a split of the profits, for example 85%. For example, I contacted a Canadian firm some months ago and was offered 90% payout, 50:1 leverage, and $1 per 1000 shares traded in commissions.

The software is usually licensed. I used Sterling Trader during all my years.

The observant reader probably notice that this setup resembles a “customer in disguise”. Up until 2012 some companies even paid out 100% of the profits. This didn’t go well with the SEC, and 100% payouts are not accepted anymore in the US. Luckily, the regulations are not as strict outside the US.

In house prop trading:

One option is to get “hired” by a prop firm and show up at the office every day while they teach and gives you the tools to succeed. Again, you don’t receive a salary, or at least it’s minimal, and you get a slice of the profits.

Prop trading instruments:

All asset classes can be traded prop. I suspect stocks and forex are the most widely used, but it could be futures, commodities, and derivatives.

Prop trading strategies:

If you trade remotely you are most likely left completely on your own. This means you can trade whatever strategy that works for you as long as you’re within the margin requirements.

Advantages with proprietary trading

Based on the information above, we can assemble a list of the advantages and disadvantages of proprietary trading:

Proprietary trading is good for providing liquidity via open orders:

If you trade at the open or in some way provide liquidity (which often requires many open orders), a prop firm is most likely a better option than being a retail client. As a retail customer, your orders are rejected when you reach your leverage limit. At Echotrade I had more than one thousand open orders at the same time.

Proprietary trading orders ample leverage:

Not only can you have many open orders, but you can of course have many filled orders. In all my years I never received any “margin calls”. I believe the leverage limits are not strictly enforced in most prop firms, especially if you have a track record spanning many years.

Proprietary trading offers an easy entry to trading for “undercapitalized” traders:

If you have less than 25 000 USD to invest, a prop account might be a good solution as your buying power can exceed anything you get as a retail client.

Furthermore, why keep your capital locked up as collateral (and be at risk) when you can use leverage?

Proprietary firms offer multiple trading platforms:

Prop firms normally let you choose among several platforms. As a retail client, you are bound to whatever the firm offers you.

In all my years I only used Sterling Trader, a widely used platform both among proprietary and retail traders. The interface looks a bit old-fashioned, but it worked flawlessly for me.

Proprietary trading lets you diversify and reduce risk:

Even if you have a big bank account, proprietary trading can be a viable option. You can have a small deposit and use margin, capital you can afford to lose, and invest the rest of your capital in stocks or mutual funds for capital appreciation.

Proprietary trading firms offer rebates:

Rebates are compensation given when you add liquidity to the market. All proprietary firms give you the rebate (if you provide it – see explanation below in the links). As a retail client, you are unlikely to get the rebate.

Proprietary trading offers big inventory lists for short sales:

To sell short you first need to locate shares. Some stocks may be on the threshold or “hard to borrow” list and may not be available for short selling.

As a retail client, you might have limited opportunities to locate shares to sell short.

Proprietary trading firms offer good support

Prop trading firms are normally closely-knit operations just involving a few people. Thus, they are always just a phone call away when you need to solve an issue. Opposite, try getting any help from your retail broker that has millions of customers, like Interactive Brokers, for example (see link above).

Disadvantages with proprietary trading

Unfortunately, as with all things in life, there are disadvantages:

As a proprietary trader, your money is at risk:

Your deposit is not insured and is liable for business risk and fraud. Because of this, only deposit money that you can afford to lose. The good thing is, the deposit can be very small and a good trader can make a 100% return on the equity per month.

As a retail client, your money is insured.

Proprietary firms are less regulated than retail broker:

Most prop firms that provide remote trading are not regulated at all. That is both good and bad. Not being regulated means less operating costs. The bad thing is that you can kiss your capital goodbye if the principals are crooks. As with any business, you need to judge the honesty and integrity of the principals. Moreover, any rogue trader can put the whole firm in jeopardy.

Proprietary firms can steal your intellectual property:

If you’re an exceptional trader, you can be sure someone at the back office is working hard to decode your strategy. The managers can simply steal your strategies. I know this happened at one firm: A trader who was raking in money discovered that the principals copied his trades with a machine.

Proprietary trading involves fees:

As a prop trader, you most likely face fees from the software you’re using, at least if you trade remotely. Monthly software fees normally start at 200 USD. As a retail client, you have less costs.

Proprietary trading is mostly about day trading:

Prop trading offers high leverage, but this applies only to day trading. You will not get such leverage by holding overnight. Moreover, most prop firms only offer day trading. None of the three firms I traded with accepted overnight positions.

My personal experience trading prop

I traded with three proprietary firms:

Echotrade LLC

Back in 2001, I started out with the Phoenix-based Echotrade LLC, then the biggest rival of Bright Trading. Echotrade required a series 7 broker exam which was pretty cumbersome to pass and needed renewal every three years. My deal with Echotrade was simple: I paid around 0.3 cents per share in commissions and received 100% of my profits. Problem was, the financial regulator says this structure is a “customer in disguise” and I believe this was the last nail in the coffin: Echotrade chose to wind down business in 2013 (?) because of high costs due to regulation and scrutiny from the regulators.

Bright Trading managed to adapt and is still in business.

Nevis Trading

In 2011 I gave up Echotrade and made a deposit in Nevis Trading, an offshore firm. The commission was 0.1 cents per share and 85% payout. This was smooth sailing for a couple of years until I realized something was not right. I stopped trading in 2013.

Later it turned out they went belly up and all traders lost 100% of their deposits. To this day I believe nothing is recovered.

Global Market Trading

My last trading firm was a small outfit in Quebec, Canada. It’s run by two very nice French-Canadians and I was a happy camper until I chose to stop day trading in 2018. The payout was 85%, and the commission was a record low 0.1 USD per 1000 shares (commissions are higher now).

Conclusion:

I want to give one piece of advice to anyone contemplating wiring their capital to a prop firm: make sure you do proper due diligence and know the risks involved. Your money is at risk both from excessive leverage and how the firm operates. Many prop firms have gone belly up or been fraudsters.

However, if you understand the risk and trust the management and its operations, proprietary trading offers many advantages, although it mostly involves day trading.

 

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